Yes I have also taken binders CSM since the times I failed and the time I passed.I falied the VCS test the first 2 times and passed the 3rd time. During that period I have taken some ninders (eg cholestyramine).
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Yes I have also taken binders CSM since the times I failed and the time I passed.I falied the VCS test the first 2 times and passed the 3rd time. During that period I have taken some ninders (eg cholestyramine).
Die off mostly just make you feel worse overall. Intolerance has more to do with what is going on with your sinuses. So bleeding and stuffiness relates more to intolerance. The headaches are a little more difficult to distinguish. Not alot of fun regardless.I had a bit of a break from the chelator and amph B as I was moving house and couldn't do that with the side effects. I started the meds up again two days ago and now I have the congested sinus again, almost completely blocked which makes breathing through the mouth a necessity. I have intermittent headaches- almost like a migraine with the nauseous feeling and my eyes are dull, dry and gritty feeling. My nose also has bloody mucous throughout the day. How do people distinguish between an intolerance to the medicine and die off symptoms? I am not sure if this is die off or whether I just cant handle the meds.
I had a bad reaction to the edta so my doc had me try atomizing saline with a drop of idione to bust up bio film - which I could tolerate but don't know how efficient it is at doing the job.
Not much fun I second that! Yes I feel this is likely intolerance based on the reaction - will ask doc about nyastatin.Die off mostly just make you feel worse overall. Intolerance has more to do with what is going on with your sinuses. So bleeding and stuffiness relates more to intolerance. The headaches are a little more difficult to distinguish. Not alot of fun regardless.
That's good to hear Skiii - I have also started nasalcrom so hoping that will help. Do you do the smaller dose of Amph B every day? Does the medicine keep once you have opened the ampoule or do you ditch what's left? Thx!Detts I'm not sure. But when I had the 36 hour blocked nose, my doctor had me back down on the dose, basically to finishing the ampoule, doing a couple long sniffs in each nostril, and try that before switching to nystatin (especially since I already had the amphoB). Also the Nasalcrom and a nasal steroid are helping to keep the inflammation down. It's been much more tolerable!
Well I do think the Nasalcrom is helping, I started it before the steroid. Good luck!
Detts- what is your mold history? I'm curious to hear everyone's story. (feel free to be lengthy!)
I started the meds up again two days ago and now I have the congested sinus again, almost completely blocked which makes breathing through the mouth a necessity. I have intermittent headaches- almost like a migraine with the nauseous feeling and my eyes are dull, dry and gritty feeling. My nose also has bloody mucous throughout the day. How do people distinguish between an intolerance to the medicine and die off symptoms? I am not sure if this is die off or whether I just cant handle the meds.
So in short I'm not sure you can prove exactly what your relapse is caused by. And this really sucks cause I felt absolutely shit last week as well with some blood in the mucous and just having a really bad few days. But then family members and other people I know were down with the flu & other bugs going around as well....
But yes if your antifungals start killing a lot of the mold then yes that will release a lot of toxins which the body will absorb and make the immune system go into panic mode. That is the reason why binders are used with antifungals because you want to get the mycotoxins out of the body as quickly as possible.
I've been thinking about this too.
My theory is that you don't get impacted directly by the mould spores, mycotoxins or bacteria you inhale, but rather by the reaction of the mould in your sinuses to these. The mould that colonises your sinuses might sense these and "think" that another organism is trying to compete for the same environmental niche and as a result releases a lot of mycotoxins - potentially way more than the amount actually inhaled. This is why mycotoxins exist in the first place as a competitive advantage.
This could explain why people with colonisation react badly to exposure while "normal" people don't.
I haven't researched this theory too much but it seems plausible. Perhaps someone with more knowledge can comment.
Regards,
P
These are my environmental lab reports from the house I just moved out of:
Negative for Ochratoxin
Negative for Aflatoxin
Positive for Tricothecene at 3.463 ppb ( it is rated positive if greater or equal to 0.2ppb)
Urgh!