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thanks mesci,
yes one teaspoon is enough.
its good stuff.
yes one teaspoon is enough.
its good stuff.
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Hi Derek,Its been a long time since I have posted on this site. So after improving gut bacteria I didnt get hugely improved like I was hoping. Clearly there is more to this. So about 3 months ago I started on a heavy metal detox using the Andy Cutler method. So far early days and no significant improvements. But thought I'd just update.
Dont let this discourage anyone, as I think each person may have a different cause of their symptoms, and may react differently to different treatments. Additionally, my symptoms are less fatigue, and more mental such as poor memory, and indecisiveness. So the cause of my problem may be different than others. I was initially drawn to this forum due to the topic of discussion which was streptococcus.
I think strep does play a role in a variety of health problems. It may still be the problem in myself, however its not only the gut. I became aware that heavy metals such as mercury can be a problem, and one of the problems they can cause is weaken the immune system. So potentially strep may be in the body, and cant be destroyed by the immune system as heavy metals are present.
So, currently I am taking a bunch of vitamins and antioxidants for general support, and also taking metal detox supplements that includes DMPS/DMSA and ALA (Alpha lipoic acid).
Hi Streppy,Hi this seems like one of the few threads on the interest about getting rid of strep in the intestines. I've been ill for 10years but only really known it was strep for the last 2years. Have many people got over it? It seems very hard to kill. I been seeing Dr kenny in Brussels since February this year, he been really helpful and I think his tests are great. But he only recommends a low dose of antibiotic . Reading this thread some have tried really high doses 4 at once. What's really worked for people?
I also read with interest about xyolol the sugar alcohol , I did try this years ago when I thought I had a candida problem but I felt really really ill when I had it. I found it so hard to tell if it was die off or if it was feeding something
What do you mean your bloods in normal range? Do you mean the normal blood test your doctor does, so white blood cell count ?Hi Streppy,
I am one of those people that have had the 4x antibiotic therapy (Vancomycin, Ciprofloxican, Augmentin Duo Forte and Aithromycin) at high strengths for a month. Completely removed strep from my bowel. I then had a long dose of clarithromycin (6 months) and I am now on a prophylactic dose of azithromycin indefinitely.
If you are going to go down the high dose antibiotics path, you need to replace the bacteria that are killed off with good ones. The only real way to do this is by placing them up your backside. Either by Fecal Matter Transplant or some of us have been using kefir grains.
Personally I have achieved 70-80% recovery. I am back to the gym every day, brain fog is gone, I still get some muscle pain and I get a bit tired if I really push the weights at the gym. Everything is gradually getting better and my bloods are coming back to normal range.
One of the big issues with some of these strep (viridans) species is protease. This is what causes the imbalance in the immune system from TH1 to TH2 so once they break through the gut walls and enter the lymphatic system it totally throws the immune system out of wack and basically burns it out.
Strep is what causes tartar on teeth, and it is the same principle ..... the teeth can get that furry feeling in a matter of hours ...... I believe the same happens in the gut ... Any slip from the treatment protocol will result in a very quick return to full blown symptoms.
Xylitol is a non fermentable sugar and acts like fiber in the large intestine, so it feeds the good guys. Strep takes in xylitol through the fructose receptors and is poisoned. It can cause bloating and gas (like any fiber does) and diarrhea. Eating fruit with xylitol reduces its effectiveness as a strep killer.
Hope that helps.
Cheers.
Hi I used to take trimethrim and all my symptoms would disappear . My symptoms are fatigue , Brian fog, halos around lights. Can't eat carbs without feeling really ill like have flu or a viris. All my glands enlarge and I get a sore throat.Hi @Streppy how do you know that the strep is what is responsible for your symptoms?
Have you ever taken clarithromycin or any other macrolide?
How soon after starting and stopping the abx do your symptoms go and come back? Thanks mate. I have strep too. But don't most people?