Phoenix Rising close to winning $10,000 – Last few days. Vote now!

September 17, 2012

Chase is giving lots of money away in their Facebook vote off extravaganza

Phoenix Rising is currently 155 on the Leaderboard with 913 votes, and any organisation in the top 196 wins $10,000. Yes, that’s a lot of money for relatively few votes.

Voting ends in a few days – this Weds 19th at Midnight (EST)

PR is hovering just 107 votes above the cut-off point for zero money. Voting speeds up as the deadline approaches and we will need a lot more votes to secure the $10,000. Every extra vote is crucial to securing that money.

To vote, go to Phoenix Rising’s page at Chase Giving and Vote

Note: Before you can vote, you will be asked to accept the Chase Giving app on your facebook page: it’s harmless enough and you can always delete it when the voting is over (facebook instructions on deleting apps).

ps if you want to have twice the impact, read how to get a bonus vote

Countdown to $10,000, maybe more!

Here’s a graph showing where we stand at the moment, just inside the safety zone for $10,000. We’d be on track for $20,000 if we had another 474 votes today.

*UPDATE*

 

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Esther12 September 17, 2012 at 6:50 pm

So anyone with a facebook account can just go to this page: http://fb.chasegiving.com/charity/view/ein/27-3313361 , accept the Chase Giving app, and then vote for Phoenix Rising?

By golly-gosh, that was so easy and fun that I'd have done it even if these votes wouldn't allow us to win $10,000 to help provide new information services to patients! I'll be sure to share the thrill of voting with as many people as I can on facebook – woot-woot!

Last year, voting really picked up in the last two days, as organisations who only need a few hundred more votes to win $10,000 really put in an extra effort, so we'll have to as well. It would be terrible to miss out at that end by only a few votes.

K2 for Hope September 17, 2012 at 8:52 pm

Yes, the one thing you have to do is "allow" the Chase Giving app before you vote, but then you can vote and take the app's permissions away. If anyone has any issues doing that, post it in the forums and someone will help.

I voted!

Simon September 18, 2012 at 3:13 am

To vote Twice, get a bounus vote
Just a little more hassle ('like' the PR Chase page to put it on your Timeline, if someone clicks on that and votes you get a bonus vote) – but so worth it.

here's this missing link from the blog:

how to get a bonus vote/QUOTE]

Merry September 18, 2012 at 1:17 pm

Contest stats as of 3:15 ET, 18 September:

NIDA at 69th place with 1831 votes.

PR at 167th place with 955 votes.

Simon September 18, 2012 at 2:11 pm

1,000 Votes!

Just checked (see post for timestamp), we have 1,006 votes. Unfortunately those below us seem to be adding votes faster than us but we are in the race.

ps those figures posted by Merry above are from the leaderboard which unfortunately isn't live and was last updated 6am EST. Next one due 6pm EST.

Merry September 18, 2012 at 3:52 pm


Simon

1,000 Votes!

Just checked (see post for timestamp), we have 1,006 votes. Unfortunately those below us seem to be adding votes faster than us but we are in the race.

ps those figures posted by Merry above are from the leaderboard which unfortunately isn't live and was last updated 6am EST. Next one due 6pm EST.

Oops. Sorry, Simon. I'm getting mixed up. Contest fatigue.

Simon September 18, 2012 at 4:30 pm


Merry

Oops. Sorry, Simon. I'm getting mixed up. Contest fatigue.

:) . Me too; Leaderboard update is late and it's bedtime here so graph in about 8 hours. Fingers' crossed we are still in it.

Mark September 18, 2012 at 4:34 pm

Here's an email I just sent out to my friends – we need one last push, and perhaps if a few of us do this it will get us over the line…

Subject: Urgent Appeal: 24 hours to go: Please Vote on Facebook to help us win $10k

Hi,

Apologies for the mass email but I really need the help of all Facebookers: Phoenix Rising has just over 24 hours left in the Chase Giving contest, and we are touch and go to win $10,000 – money that would make a huge difference to us. All I need is a couple of minutes of your time to vote for us – and every vote really does count. This contest will be decided by a handful of votes, and we are at real risk of missing out at the last minute.

All you have to do is go to Phoenix Rising's page at Chase Giving, and vote for us:

http://fb.chasegiving.com/charity/view/ein/27-3313361

Of course, if you can ask your facebook friends to vote for us too, that'd be even better! :)

Full instructions are here:

http://phoenixrising.me/

You have to accept the Chase Giving app on your facebook page, but it's harmless enough and you can delete it when the voting is over at 5am on Thursday 20th – instructions on how to do that are here:

http://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=170585223002660

Phoenix Rising operates on a very small budget and this money would really make all the difference to us, so I really hope you can help us out.

Thanks ever so much,

Mark

jeffrez September 18, 2012 at 6:04 pm

You going to divvy up the 10 grand with those of us who voted? ; -)

Esther12 September 18, 2012 at 6:32 pm

Now only 50 votes ahead of those getting nothing. It was 100 just six hours ago. Unless we find some new voters, we're going to slip outside the top 200.

Simon September 19, 2012 at 12:46 am

This is going to be so tight!

Sliding down here but as at 2.30am EST Weds (7.30 BST) I would say we are just about holding are own in the bottom 20 – despite having jumped to 1,120 votes. It will be a photo finish. Please contact anyone you can to vote.
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LisaGoddard September 19, 2012 at 6:00 am

can uk citizens vote?

taniaaust1 September 19, 2012 at 6:07 am

Yes.. anyone WORLDWIDE can.. please do

Nielk September 19, 2012 at 6:34 am


taniaaust1

Yes.. anyone WORLDWIDE can.. please do

All you need is a Facebook account.

Simon September 19, 2012 at 9:05 am

Don't think I've posted the latest stats, from 7.30 am EST

Thanks too to Tom Kindlon for tweeting about the desperate need for votes.
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Sherlock September 19, 2012 at 11:30 am

I wonder if any votes meant for this PR got diverted to this other one:
PHOENIX RISING

PO Box 17936, Nashville, TN, 37217
EIN: 30-0548817
46

votes

Merry September 19, 2012 at 12:42 pm


Sherlock

I wonder if any votes meant for this PR got diverted to this other one:
PHOENIX RISING

PO Box 17936, Nashville, TN, 37217
EIN: 30-0548817
46

votes

Hi, Sherlock.

On the first day of the contest, I read at the Facebook ME/CFS Fundraising Group that someone mistakenly voted for the wrong organization "Phoenix Rising" rather than Cort Johnson's "Phoenix Rising an NEID Corporation." Those working on the contest have repeatedly pointed out which organization is the correct one, especially here on these forums.

Sherlock September 19, 2012 at 1:12 pm

It seems that EGYPTIAN CANCER NETWORK is #1.

Merry September 19, 2012 at 1:23 pm


Sherlock

It seems that EGYPTIAN CANCER NETWORK is #1.

Yes, with over 91,000 votes.

Simon September 19, 2012 at 4:32 pm

We are far humbler, but looking good for the $10,000. Good work all round.

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Esther12 September 19, 2012 at 4:43 pm

Hopefully we'll make it. I feel bad for all the worthy charities who will just miss out. Curse that relentless tide of animal charities.

edit: NIDA is only just in the $20,000 group, so it's well worth encouraging people to vote for both.

taniaaust1 September 19, 2012 at 4:53 pm

Im annoyed that things have been made so hard in places that it has left me unable to vote at all. I'd planned to do a last minute vote as I know things always get desperate towards the end of this comp. sighs… facebook has got the better of me.

I forgot the account I made up for facebook last year so had to open a new email account and a new facebook account so I could vote (as no way do I want facebook to have any connection to my real personal details. Im a facebook hater and do not keep an account there). Firstly I went to open a hotmail account for this.. only to find out now to just open a hotmail account one either needed ANOTHER email account or to give ones phone number (it only asked for one secret question and hence wanted either of those two other things.. and I didnt want my personal stuff llinked so didnt want to give my normal email to it either).

So then I went to yahoo to open one.. (that one was easy to do.. so I got an email then to put to facebook). Then I went to facebook and seemed to sign up (under fake name) but now there is something weird coming up there saying "confirm your email address hi, to continue using facebook, please click on the link we went to. This will confirm your phone as your contact address".
I dont understand this at all as my phone number hasnt been linked to anything. So I went to my new email to see if I had a confirmation message thing there to click but there is nothing there and it isnt in the spam part either.

So at this point Im slumped and cant figure out facebook to get an account there :( .. Ive tried so hard to sort this all out this morn without any luck, its too complex. I feel very disappointment Ive gone to all this effort (even got out of bed early just to do this) to no avail. So Im left unable to do a vote.

* Chase also closed down an account I'd opened with them last year to give me extra vote.. citing it was a false account, Ive no idea how they come to that conclusion but yeah I did open it up only due to the comp last year. I actually did have that Chase account linked to my real email.

Merry September 19, 2012 at 4:54 pm


Esther12

Curse that relentless tide of animal charities.

Thanks, E12, for the only laugh I've had today.

Esther12 September 19, 2012 at 5:00 pm


taniaaust1

sighs… facebook has got the better of me.

They do seem ever keen to have you give away personal details. Sorry to hear about your troubles, but hopefully it won't matter.

It seems like lots of CFS discussion/articles gets posted on FB, so it could be worth having an account for stuff like that too.

Merry

Thanks, E12, for the only laugh I've had today.

Turn to that stand-ups thread merry! Everyone needs a few laughs in each day.

Merry September 19, 2012 at 5:01 pm


taniaaust1

So at this point Im slumped and cant figure out facebook to get an account there :( .. Ive tried so hard to sort this all out this morn without any luck, its too complex. I feel very disappointment Ive gone to all this effort (even got out of bed early just to do this) to no avail. So Im left unable to do a vote.

Sorry, tania. You still have five hours. So maybe if you rest awhile what needs done will be clearer. But this is not worth making yourself ill over. Other people are coming forward to vote in these last hours. There's still hope. . . .

taniaaust1 September 19, 2012 at 5:45 pm

Now im starting to wonder if my computer has a virus or not.. maybe someone can tell me.

I now forgot my normal hotmail email account password Ive had for a few years which I regularly use (I confused myself with passwords due to trying to open other accounts earlier and then did the hotmail password wrong three times), so now cant get into that :( .. instead of it coming up with my previous secret questions which usually happens if i forget password.. It now gets a microsoft message up saying
"
A password isn't enough
Passwords can be lost or stolen. Before you can proceed, we need a way to reach you in case something goes wrong. We won't use this to spam you–just to keep your account more secure."

and is asking for a phone number to vertify me or another email. (this is ridiculous… why has my normal hotmail changed how it does things? right after I tried to open a face book account even thou i used a different email).

This sucks.. im now regretting that I tried to help with the Chase thing, my brain cant handle this stuff. It looks like now i will have to open yet another account which isnt a temp fake one, to use as a second account to now get into my normal email account (I wont do it with the one I just opened for facebook as that is linked to facebook now)

OR is this a false microsoft message, a virus???? (do they really ask for phone numbers to confirm who's behind accounts?). Its weird.. facebook did it to me and now my normal hotmail is doing it.. Ive never had this issue before… Im wondering if facebook going there contaminated my computer in some way. (Iast year when i did the facebook stuff, I made sure not to use my own computer). This stuff is upsetting me… I had some important emails to do but now cant.. its like my normal account has now been hijacked (or that someone is trying to do that). Im going to have to try to get someone to wipe out cookies or anything else which I could of picked up from facebook from my computer before I do anything else.

I suggest anyone who dont use facebook and avoids it due to the NWO stuff or whatever.. whatever you do.. dont go to facebook and try to open an account.. forget about voting yourself if you dont use facebook.. it isnt worth the stress and hassels it causes.. its too coincidental that Ive now got issues with my computer and accounts after going there. (I havent had a virus on my computer for a few years.. so suddenly to be getting this happening.. its too weird). Maybe just get people who do use facebook to vote.

(note tried to do everything at facebook under false names and accounts and still my regular hotmail account has been affected (im sure my computer has been tracked from it). I think Im now going to have to abandon my account everyone knows and ive been using for years)

madietodd September 19, 2012 at 5:51 pm

I wouldn't trust anything asking for a phone number.

I use gmail. I think it's super-easy to set up, but I did it years ago.

I agree with Merry – don't make yourself crazy over this! It's wonderful that you're trying so hard, and if it doesn't work…….well, you really tried!

Esther12 September 19, 2012 at 5:54 pm

Hotmail is now really keen to get a phone-number. I think I just entered one. Apparently it's in order to have a way of contacting people to confirm who they are, and will not be used to marketing things. I've not had any bother from them since giving them my number.

Sherlock September 19, 2012 at 8:00 pm


madietodd

I wouldn't trust anything asking for a phone number.

I use gmail. I think it's super-easy to set up, but I did it years ago.

privacy invading google now demands a phone number. They also openly admit that their computers read every single email that you send or receive. They want to build a file on everyone on the planet. They're succeeding, too.

Sherlock September 19, 2012 at 8:03 pm


Esther12

Hotmail is now really keen to get a phone-number. I think I just entered one. Apparently it's in order to have a way of contacting people to confirm who they are, and will not be used to marketing things. I've not had any bother from them since giving them my number.

Nope, they want your phone number to store in your dossier with your identity so that they can correlate that with all the tracking they do on your web activity. They also read all your email. Did you ever use that email to order anything online? Then they have your name, address etc. When hackers get it all, they'll say "oops, sorry".

Btw, there was just a news report that medical records are being sold on certain websites, e.g. $20 for each.

Sherlock September 19, 2012 at 8:07 pm

Anyway, I came to this thread right now to say that this contest is getting suspenseful :)

taniaaust1 September 20, 2012 at 12:04 am


Sherlock

privacy invading google now demands a phone number. They also openly admit that their computers read every single email that you send or receive. They want to build a file on everyone on the planet. They're succeeding, too.

nods yeah.. google has had links to facebook for a very long time.. they do work together to keep track of people and hence google is another place i dont use.

I had read somewhere that hotmail worked in with all that too (google/facebook/hotmail) but till today after i went to facebook .. I hadnt seen any evidence of that. but yeah I was definatately tracked on my computer from FB and then had my normal hotmail account I hadnt even used there affected. They certainly want to know it was who tried to join FB.

I'll stuff that up by making a new email account so i have the second one i need to be able to access my normal hotmail again (not throu google and not connected to the new yahoo one i connected to face book).

Does anyone know of another place I can get an email account from which has no facebook ties to fix the issue I have now? Actually I will need two other places.. one so I have a way again to get into my hotmail to tell my friends I need to abandon that account so not to mail me there and I'll need to collect all my addresses (but unfortunately then my infected hotmail will know that one). so then I'll need a second email place to then message them on to tell them my new address. (i hate ideas of goverments tracking people..so Ive always made sure I'd be as hard as possible to track me. I dont even allow people to put my photo on facebook, Ive never placed my photo up on a dating site or anything.. the most Ive done is put a picture of my mouth on photobucket).

Merry..Im probably more upset now over that my email has been ruined in this way then I are over the voting (thou I wasnt happy i couldnt do that vote either). Its all the hassel of having my personal account affected and now having to work out how to fix this issue I have now. i knew i should of stayed clear of facebook :( , I had a bad feel about it but i wouldnt have been able to forgive myself if PR had lost by one vote and I hadnt done all I could.

Also could someone please tell me how to get the FB tracker out of my computer (i used to have something on how to do that but have lost it). I dont want to have to pay for someone to come and sort my computer out if I dont have to (I need my money right now as I see a new CFS specialist soon who does a lot more tests).

Just imagine if there was another like Holocaust which happened in Germany and groups of people were being wiped out.. it would be soooo easy to find out peoples religious views or whatever by FB, hotmail and google and the watching they do of people there. They'd know sooo much about you.. what you look like, the places you hang out in real life (from the photos) etc etc. Hardly any of the targets (people) they were after would survive. Just imagine if that holocaust happened in todays society.. less jews would of escaped. Humanity is capable of just turning on large groups of people…and destroying them. Culls of certain groups happen all over the world at times.

user9876 September 20, 2012 at 2:35 am


taniaaust1

nods yeah.. google has had links to facebook for a very long time.. they do work together to keep track of people and hence google is another place i dont use.

I had read somewhere that hotmail worked in with all that too (google/facebook/hotmail) but till today after i went to facebook .. I hadnt seen any evidence of that. but yeah I was definatately tracked on my computer from FB and then had my normal hotmail account I hadnt even used there affected. They certainly want to know it was who tried to join FB.

I'll stuff that up by making a new email account so i have the second one i need to be able to access my normal hotmail again (not throu google and not connected to the new yahoo one i connected to face book).

Does anyone know of another place I can get an email account from which has no facebook ties to fix the issue I have now? Actually I will need two other places.. one so I have a way again to get into my hotmail to tell my friends I need to abandon that account so not to mail me there and I'll need to collect all my addresses (but unfortunately then my infected hotmail will know that one). so then I'll need a second email place to then message them on to tell them my new address. (i hate ideas of goverments tracking people..so Ive always made sure I'd be as hard as possible to track me. I dont even allow people to put my photo on facebook, Ive never placed my photo up on a dating site or anything.. the most Ive done is put a picture of my mouth on photobucket).

Merry..Im probably more upset now over that my email has been ruined in this way then I are over the voting (thou I wasnt happy i couldnt do that vote either). Its all the hassel of having my personal account affected and now having to work out how to fix this issue I have now. i knew i should of stayed clear of facebook :( , I had a bad feel about it but i wouldnt have been able to forgive myself if PR had lost by one vote and I hadnt done all I could.

Also could someone please tell me how to get the FB tracker out of my computer (i used to have something on how to do that but have lost it). I dont want to have to pay for someone to come and sort my computer out if I dont have to (I need my money right now as I see a new CFS specialist soon who does a lot more tests).

Just imagine if there was another like Holocaust which happened in Germany and groups of people were being wiped out.. it would be soooo easy to find out peoples religious views or whatever by FB, hotmail and google and the watching they do of people there. They'd know sooo much about you.. what you look like, the places you hang out in real life (from the photos) etc etc. Hardly any of the targets (people) they were after would survive. Just imagine if that holocaust happened in todays society.. less jews would of escaped. Humanity is capable of just turning on large groups of people…and destroying them. Culls of certain groups happen all over the world at times.

Personally I don't trust Google – they collect far to much data not just emails but searches etc and they mine that data. Remember google are not a technology company they are an advertising agency. With android smart phones they not only track web usage but have location information.

Just as an example google can predict where there are outbreaks of various viral diseases such as flu before doctors notice. Just by looking at the searches people are doing.

There is however a problem when you forget your password. The usual reminder questions have proved to be unreliable hence the attempts to link the account to a mobile phone number or a seperate email address. You can just skip this if you want.

If you really want privacy there is an email provider called Hushmail. The downside is that unless you pay for an account they delete accounts after 3 weeks of inactivity, they also have no password recovery mechanism so if you forget your password you have lost your email.

user9876 September 20, 2012 at 2:38 am


Sherlock

Anyway, I came to this thread right now to say that this contest is getting suspenseful :)

I believe

At close Phoenix rising got 1413 votes in 136th place and
NIDA got 2208 votes in 87th place

Merry September 20, 2012 at 3:17 am

Look what we did — all of us together! Thank you! May the after-contest party begin.

Edit: Balloons removed.

You are right, Simon. I forget when the official results are to be announced.

Simon September 20, 2012 at 3:19 am

Those figures were at 6pm EST, not at close (the leaderboard is only updated a couple of times a day) so we still don't know for sure, but it's looking good. Just hold the balloons for now…

Merry September 20, 2012 at 4:32 am

Read an article, published on the 16th, about allegations of fraud in the Chase Community Giving contest:

http://www.prlog.org/11975146-charities-try-to-cheat-their-way-to-chase-millions.html

And this is Chase's statement at the top of the leaderboard:

"Chase monitors the program for improper voting activity using controls it has in place, which have been reviewed by a competent third party. Per our program rules, any improper votes we discover will be removed. Please note there are also instances where charities may be removed from the program at their request or because they do not meet the eligibility criteria or other requirements of the Program Rules."

user9876 September 20, 2012 at 5:21 am


Merry

Read an article, published on the 16th, about allegations of fraud in the Chase Community Giving contest:

http://www.prlog.org/11975146-charities-try-to-cheat-their-way-to-chase-millions.html

And this is Chase's statement at the top of the leaderboard:

"Chase monitors the program for improper voting activity using controls it has in place, which have been reviewed by a competent third party. Per our program rules, any improper votes we discover will be removed. Please note there are also instances where charities may be removed from the program at their request or because they do not meet the eligibility criteria or other requirements of the Program Rules."

I'm not impressed by their fraud detection system

So I used a facebook account with very little if any activity to vote. It can be useful to have a facebook account for the odd thing (like this) but I don't like facebook and generally don't link to people. I also know people with several active facebook accounts (often in their pets names) as this helps in playing games.

The problem with their fraud detection is that it assumes that all people voting will be active facebook users. Did people set up face book accounts to vote? As charities incourage people to vote some people without facebook accounts will set them up – perhaps just for this purpose. If a particular charity reached out to a lot of people who were not facebook users, helping them set up accounts they could loose all their votes.

Merry September 20, 2012 at 5:44 am

What caught my eye a week ago and sent me googling for reports of fraud were the organizations at the top of the leaderboard, which were bringing in thousands of votes per day. The problem that the article highlights is that "charities" can pay companies to generate the votes for big wins.

Kina September 20, 2012 at 6:42 am
Sherlock September 20, 2012 at 6:49 am


Merry

Read an article, published on the 16th, about allegations of fraud in the Chase Community Giving contest:

http://www.prlog.org/11975146-charities-try-to-cheat-their-way-to-chase-millions.html

That was kind of what I had been alluding to earlier. As it happens, I have an FB account that I'd used a few times a couple of years ago. Otherwise, I'd be embarrased to say that I use FB. So my account is not new, but not exactly active, either.

Merry, I just read that article you cited. So it occurs to me that those 'bot networks' with computers taken over by hackers would be ideal for that kind of cheating: different computers from all over the world, each with an established FB account, probably friending each other, too. Have you saved the leaderboard so that you'll see if any rankings change? Since the finalizing of results is delayed, there must be some manual intervention involved in checking out suspect votes.

We live in an age of lying and cheating, where winning is all that matters to most people.

Merry September 20, 2012 at 7:06 am


Sherlock

That was kind of what I had been alluding to earlier. As it happens, I have an FB account that I'd used a few times a couple of years ago. Otherwise, I'd be embarrased to say that I use FB. So my account is not new, but not exactly active, either.

Merry, I just read that article you cited. So it occurs to me that those 'bot networks' with computers taken over by hackers would be ideal for that kind of cheating: different computers from all over the world, each with an established FB account, probably friending each other, too. Have you saved the leaderboard so that you'll see if any rankings change? Since the finalizing of results is delayed, there must be some manual intervention involved in checking out suspect votes.

We live in an age of lying and cheating, where winning is all that matters to most people.

No, I haven't saved the leaderboard. I suppose I could, if I were energetic. And shortly I have to leave the house for an appointment.

"We live in an age of lying and cheating, where winning is all that matters to most people." I don't know about that. How do we measure that and compare to earlier ages?

It's certainly an injustice — let's call it a crime — that those of us who are ill with ME/CFS have to beg for money.

Sherlock September 20, 2012 at 7:06 am


Kina

taniaaust1 == you asked about FB tracking, here is an article http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/how-to-stop-facebook-from-tracking-you.html

Kina :)

Thanks, Kina. I suppose I might install one of those.

I always have google cookies blocked in Firefox (which has degraded into a terrible browser, another story). That's probably why I could not complete the voting process with it, I had to use another browser. FB must have wanted to check in with google before letting the voting process continue. It would make devious sense for FB to be jointly privacy-invading with anyone they can, and google is the worst privacy invader on the planet Yet the public thinks they look smart when they go around saying "google it".

Just wait for stories about gigantic leaks of medical records held by google. The expose' will happen long after the actual thefts.

Sherlock September 20, 2012 at 7:11 am


Merry

"We live in an age of lying and cheating, where winning is all that matters to most people." I don't know about that. How do we measure that and compare to earlier ages?

That's easy to compare in something very visible like sports. NFL and steroids, that baseball player who was gambling on his own games and had fans defending him, Lance Armstrong being defended for epo, the list is endless. I won't even mention politics because that gets too divisive.

Simon September 20, 2012 at 7:22 am

Re cheating now vs then:

Sherlock

That's easy to compare in something very visible like sports. NFL and steroids, that baseball player who was gambling on his own games and had fans defending him, Lance Armstrong being defended for epo, the list is endless. I won't even mention politics because that gets too divisive.

Don't forget, cheating through drugs in the Tour de France started on around day 1, a hundred years ago. It's only in the last 25 years it became seen as an issue at all, and only in the last 10 that people seriously tried to stop it. Seems to be having some effect: the average climbing power of the top cyclists in the Tour has dropped about 20% in the last decade

user9876 September 20, 2012 at 9:55 am


Sherlock

That was kind of what I had been alluding to earlier. As it happens, I have an FB account that I'd used a few times a couple of years ago. Otherwise, I'd be embarrased to say that I use FB. So my account is not new, but not exactly active, either.

Merry, I just read that article you cited. So it occurs to me that those 'bot networks' with computers taken over by hackers would be ideal for that kind of cheating: different computers from all over the world, each with an established FB account, probably friending each other, too. Have you saved the leaderboard so that you'll see if any rankings change? Since the finalizing of results is delayed, there must be some manual intervention involved in checking out suspect votes.

We live in an age of lying and cheating, where winning is all that matters to most people.

There are forums where you can buy various accounts inc. facebook along with sets of credit card numbers. Or simply rent a bot for a while. There is probably more money to be made using them for sending spam and click fraud than in a charity competition.

Its worth noting that their fraud detection system wouldn't detect the use of stolen facebook accounts.

Dolphin September 20, 2012 at 10:57 am

I wonder was the bonus votes system designed to support genuine voters.

Simon September 20, 2012 at 10:57 am

:thumbsup::balloons: We won!!!!! :balloons::thumbsup:

Congratulations all round: epic effort from all who voted and all who encouraged.

In pictures:

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Esther12 September 20, 2012 at 11:04 am

133? We were close to $20,000! I hate doing better than is needed.

Still, congratulations to all involved. Merry and Simon have been hard at work on the forum, but I know lots of others had made a real effort for this too.

I need to get to work on the 'Feed Esther12' charity that will be pleading for votes next year.

SpecialK82 September 20, 2012 at 11:20 am

Happy day for us all – I love to see everyone pulling together!! :D OUTSTANDING! :D :balloons:

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